On Dec 23, 3:22*pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Bob Officer wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 0830 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> > <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
>
> >> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You're in favor of government control over women's bodies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> No. *I'm against women committing murder.
> >>>>>>>>>>> So is everybody
> >>>>>>>>>> No, not "liberals". *They want women to be able to murder babies.
> >>>>>>>>> You really are an evil asshole.
> >>>>>>>> No, I'm not.
> >>>>>>> Yes, you are.
> >>>>>> No.
> >>>>> Stop lying,
> >>>> I never started.
> >>> [gas]
> >> You and your fellow hate-America "liberals" are the menace to liberty
> >> and prosperity. *You are evil assholes, because you want to be.
> >
> > Rudy you still don't get it, do you.
> >
> > Liberals generally expand Liberties.
> > Conservatives restrict Liberties.
> >
> > Religion is general considered a conservative movement.
> >
> > The so-called Prolife group is conservative and seek to limit the
> > choice/options.
> >
> > The anti-gay marriage group is also conservative, anti-choice group
> > which seeks to keep exclusive and un-earned rights to a group.
> >
> > The same anti Gay marriage groups carry the historic guilt of 100s of
> > years of racism and hate. Many of the anti gay marriage groups also
> > held the same ideas about mixed race marriages.
> >
> > Why anyone with a thinking brain would side with those groups for
> > anything is a sign that some people are just stupid.
> >
> >
>
> I get it: *"liberals", who are illiberal, are evil assholes who hate
> America.

No, you do not get it. Liberals love America and see to improve it
and make sure that everyone actually has the same rights and
protections under the law. "Illiberals", which is an archaic word and
means marrow-minded and bigoted, are the opposite of liberals, who are
open-minded, inclusive, and tolerant. "Illiberal" is a better
describes the conservatives groups that are against same sex marriage,
like you, and against women controlling their own bodies and deciding
for themselves whether or not to continue a pregnancy that they are
experiencing, like you. Which means that you are iliberal, and thus
you are claiming to be an "evil asshole", which I doubt few would
argue with you on, and that you "hate America", you also seems to
describe you.

> > Are you just stupid, Rudy?

Obviously, the answer to that question is "Yes."

Mark Sebree

On Dec 24, 2:18*am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Mark Sebree wrote:
> > On Dec 23, 3:22 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 0830 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're in favor of government control over women's bodies..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. *I'm against women committing murder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So is everybody
> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, not "liberals". *They want women to be able to murder babies.
> >>>>>>>>>>> You really are an evil asshole.
> >>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not.
> >>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
> >>>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>> Stop lying,
> >>>>>> I never started.
> >>>>> [gas]
> >>>> You and your fellow hate-America "liberals" are the menace to liberty
> >>>> and prosperity. *You are evil assholes, because you want to be.
> >>> Rudy you still don't get it, do you.
>
> >>> Liberals *generally expand Liberties.
> >>> Conservatives restrict Liberties.
>
> >>> Religion is general considered a conservative movement.
>
> >>> The so-called Prolife group is conservative and seek to limit the
> >>> choice/options.
>
> >>> The anti-gay marriage group is also conservative, anti-choice group
> >>> which seeks to keep exclusive and un-earned rights to a group.
>
> >>> The same anti Gay marriage groups carry the historic guilt of 100s of
> >>> years of racism and hate. Many of the anti gay marriage groups also
> >>> held the same ideas about mixed race marriages.
>
> >>> Why anyone with a thinking brain would side with those groups for
> >>> anything is a sign that some people are just stupid.
>
> >> I get it: *"liberals", who are illiberal, are evil assholes who hate
> >> America.
>
> > No, you do not get it.
>
> I do get it. *See above.

I did look at what you wrote. It shows that you don't get it. If you
"got it", you would not be calling liberals conservatives and you
would not be claiming that liberals hold conservative values and act
like conservatives. You would not be claiming that liberals do what
conservatives do, are closed minded and bigoted as you are, and are as
illiberal as you are.

> > Liberals love America and see to improve it
> > and make sure that everyone actually has the same rights and
> > protections under the law. "Illiberals", which is an archaic word and
> > means marrow-minded and bigoted, are the opposite of liberals, who are
> > open-minded, inclusive, and tolerant. "Illiberal" is a better
> > describes the conservatives groups that are against same sex marriage,
> > like you, and against women controlling their own bodies and deciding
> > for themselves whether or not to continue a pregnancy that they are
> > experiencing, like you. Which means that you are iliberal, and thus
> > you are claiming to be an "evil asshole", which I doubt few would
> > argue with you on, and that you "hate America", you also seems to
> > describe you.

And if you could read, you would have seen that I just showed you that
you do not get it. By definition, liberals cannot be illiberal since
they are adjectives with opposite meanings. Conservatives like you
are the ones that are actually illiberal, and you have shown in this
forum that you fit the definition of illiberal perfectly.

Mark Sebree

On Dec 25, 3:49*pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Bob Officer wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:01:16 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> > <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
>
> >> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 1016 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
>
> >>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>> On Dec 24, 2:18 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Dec 23, 3:22 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 0830 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're in favor of government control over women's bodies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. *I'm against women committing murder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is everybody
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, not "liberals". *They want women to be able to murder babies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are an evil asshole.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop lying,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I never started.
> >>>>>>>>>>> [gas]
> >>>>>>>>>> You and your fellow hate-America "liberals" are the menace to liberty
> >>>>>>>>>> and prosperity. *You are evil assholes, because you want to be.
> >>>>>>>>> Rudy you still don't get it, do you.
> >>>>>>>>> Liberals *generally expand Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>> Conservatives restrict Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>> Religion is general considered a conservative movement.
> >>>>>>>>> The so-called Prolife group is conservative and seek to limit the
> >>>>>>>>> choice/options.
> >>>>>>>>> The anti-gay marriage group is also conservative, anti-choice group
> >>>>>>>>> which seeks to keep exclusive and un-earned rights to a group.
> >>>>>>>>> The same anti Gay marriage groups carry the historic guilt of 100s of
> >>>>>>>>> years of racism and hate. Many of the anti gay marriage groups also
> >>>>>>>>> held the same ideas about mixed race marriages.
> >>>>>>>>> Why anyone with a thinking brain would side with those groups for
> >>>>>>>>> anything is a sign that some people are just stupid.
> >>>>>>>> I get it: *"liberals", who are illiberal, are evil assholes who hate
> >>>>>>>> America.
> >>>>>>> No, you do not get it.
> >>>>>> I do get it. *See above.
> >>>>> I did look at what you wrote.
> >>>> You probably didn't, but even if you had, it's clear you didn't get it.
>
> >>>>>>> Liberals love America and see to improve it
> >>>> "Liberals", who are completely illiberal, hate America and want to ruin it.
> >>> The United States was founded by some of the most liberal people of
> >>> the age.
> >> I already addressed this in another post. *The founders were, indeed,
> >> liberals: *classically so. *You and your fellow totalitarian-minded
> >> "liberals", however, are completely illiberal. *Read the other post;
> >> perhaps you'll begin to see the light.
>
> > You haven't addressed you own lies yet
>
> Nothing to address - I didn't and do not lie.

Funniest joke you've made all year.

PDW

On Dec 25, 4:54*pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Syd M. wrote:
> > On Dec 25, 3:49 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:01:16 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 1016 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2:18 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 3:22 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 0830 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're in favor of government control over women's bodies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. *I'm against women committing murder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is everybody
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, not "liberals". *They want women to be able tomurder babies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are an evil asshole.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop lying,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never started.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [gas]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You and your fellow hate-America "liberals" are the menace to liberty
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity. *You are evil assholes, because you want to be.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Rudy you still don't get it, do you.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Liberals *generally expand Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Conservatives restrict Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Religion is general considered a conservative movement.
> >>>>>>>>>>> The so-called Prolife group is conservative and seek to limitthe
> >>>>>>>>>>> choice/options.
> >>>>>>>>>>> The anti-gay marriage group is also conservative, anti-choicegroup
> >>>>>>>>>>> which seeks to keep exclusive and un-earned rights to a group..
> >>>>>>>>>>> The same anti Gay marriage groups carry the historic guilt of100s of
> >>>>>>>>>>> years of racism and hate. Many of the anti gay marriage groups also
> >>>>>>>>>>> held the same ideas about mixed race marriages.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Why anyone with a thinking brain would side with those groupsfor
> >>>>>>>>>>> anything is a sign that some people are just stupid.
> >>>>>>>>>> I get it: *"liberals", who are illiberal, are evil assholes who hate
> >>>>>>>>>> America.
> >>>>>>>>> No, you do not get it.
> >>>>>>>> I do get it. *See above.
> >>>>>>> I did look at what you wrote.
> >>>>>> You probably didn't, but even if you had, it's clear you didn't get it.
> >>>>>>>>> Liberals love America and see to improve it
> >>>>>> "Liberals", who are completely illiberal, hate America and want toruin it.
> >>>>> The United States was founded by some of the most liberal people of
> >>>>> the age.
> >>>> I already addressed this in another post. *The founders were, indeed,
> >>>> liberals: *classically so. *You and your fellow totalitarian-minded
> >>>> "liberals", however, are completely illiberal. *Read the other post;
> >>>> perhaps you'll begin to see the light.
> >>> You haven't addressed you own lies yet
> >> Nothing to address - I didn't and do not lie.
>
> > Funniest joke
>
> No joke.

And that's even better!
Keep it up, your on your way to becoming a top notch comedian!

PDW

On Dec 26, 12:31*am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Bob Officer wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 1317 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> > <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
>
> >> Syd M. wrote:
> >>> On Dec 25, 3:49 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:01:16 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 1016 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2:18 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 3:22 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 0830 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're in favor of government control over women's bodies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. *I'm against women committing murder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is everybody
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, not "liberals". *They want women to be able to murder babies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are an evil asshole.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop lying,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never started.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [gas]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You and your fellow hate-America "liberals" are the menaceto liberty
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity. *You are evil assholes, because you wantto be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy you still don't get it, do you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Liberals *generally expand Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Conservatives restrict Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion is general considered a conservative movement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The so-called Prolife group is conservative and seek to limit the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice/options.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The anti-gay marriage group is also conservative, anti-choice group
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> which seeks to keep exclusive and un-earned rights to a group.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The same anti Gay marriage groups carry the historic guilt of 100s of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> years of racism and hate. Many of the anti gay marriage groups also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> held the same ideas about mixed race marriages.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why anyone with a thinking brain would side with those groups for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything is a sign that some people are just stupid.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I get it: *"liberals", who are illiberal, are evil assholes who hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>> America.
> >>>>>>>>>>> No, you do not get it.
> >>>>>>>>>> I do get it. *See above.
> >>>>>>>>> I did look at what you wrote.
> >>>>>>>> You probably didn't, but even if you had, it's clear you didn't get it.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Liberals love America and see to improve it
> >>>>>>>> "Liberals", who are completely illiberal, hate America and want to ruin it.
> >>>>>>> The United States was founded by some of the most liberal people of
> >>>>>>> the age.
> >>>>>> I already addressed this in another post. *The founders were, indeed,
> >>>>>> liberals: *classically so. *You and your fellow totalitarian-minded
> >>>>>> "liberals", however, are completely illiberal. *Read the other post;
> >>>>>> perhaps you'll begin to see the light.
> >>>>> You haven't addressed you own lies yet
> >>>> Nothing to address - I didn't and do not lie.
> >>> Funniest joke
> >> No joke.
>
> > [juvenile bullshit]
>
> The founders of the country were indeed liberals, but you and the other
> illiberal "liberals" are the antithesis of that.

....You wanna try that in English this time, Canoza?

PDW

On Dec 26, 2:28*am, Bob Officer <boboffic...@127.0.0.7> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 2038 -0800 (PST), in alt.abortion, Syd
>
>
>
> <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 25, 4:54*pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> Syd M. wrote:
> >> > On Dec 25, 3:49 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> >> Bob Officer wrote:
> >> >>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:01:16 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >> >>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> >>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 1016 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >> >>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2:18 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 3:22 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 0830 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're in favor of government control over women's bodies.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. *I'm against women committing murder.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is everybody
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, not "liberals". *They want women to be ableto murder babies.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are an evil asshole.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop lying,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never started.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [gas]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> You and your fellow hate-America "liberals" are the menace to liberty
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity. *You are evil assholes, because you want to be.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Rudy you still don't get it, do you.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Liberals *generally expand Liberties.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Conservatives restrict Liberties.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Religion is general considered a conservative movement.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> The so-called Prolife group is conservative and seek to limit the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> choice/options.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> The anti-gay marriage group is also conservative, anti-choice group
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> which seeks to keep exclusive and un-earned rights to a group.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> The same anti Gay marriage groups carry the historic guiltof 100s of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> years of racism and hate. Many of the anti gay marriage groups also
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> held the same ideas about mixed race marriages.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Why anyone with a thinking brain would side with those groups for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> anything is a sign that some people are just stupid.
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I get it: *"liberals", who are illiberal, are evil assholes who hate
> >> >>>>>>>>>> America.
> >> >>>>>>>>> No, you do not get it.
> >> >>>>>>>> I do get it. *See above.
> >> >>>>>>> I did look at what you wrote.
> >> >>>>>> You probably didn't, but even if you had, it's clear you didn'tget it.
> >> >>>>>>>>> Liberals love America and see to improve it
> >> >>>>>> "Liberals", who are completely illiberal, hate America and wantto ruin it.
> >> >>>>> The United States was founded by some of the most liberal peopleof
> >> >>>>> the age.
> >> >>>> I already addressed this in another post. *The founders were, indeed,
> >> >>>> liberals: *classically so. *You and your fellow totalitarian-minded
> >> >>>> "liberals", however, are completely illiberal. *Read the other post;
> >> >>>> perhaps you'll begin to see the light.
> >> >>> You haven't addressed you own lies yet
> >> >> Nothing to address - I didn't and do not lie.
>
> >> > Funniest joke
>
> >> No joke.
>
> >And that's even better!
> >Keep it up, your on your way to becoming a top notch comedian!
>
> Slap stick at its worst.
>

Naah, just christian humor.
Which is the same thing.

PDW

On Dec 26, 11:56*am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Syd M. wrote:
> > On Dec 26, 12:31 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 1317 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>> Syd M. wrote:
> >>>>> On Dec 25, 3:49 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:01:16 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 1016 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2:18 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 3:22 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 0830 -0800, in alt.abortion, RudyCanoza
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're in favor of government control over women's bodies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. *I'm against women committing murder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is everybody
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, not "liberals". *They want women to be able to murder babies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are an evil asshole.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop lying,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never started.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [gas]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You and your fellow hate-America "liberals" are the menace to liberty
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity. *You are evil assholes, because you want to be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy you still don't get it, do you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liberals *generally expand Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conservatives restrict Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion is general considered a conservative movement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The so-called Prolife group is conservative and seek to limit the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice/options.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The anti-gay marriage group is also conservative, anti-choice group
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which seeks to keep exclusive and un-earned rights to a group.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same anti Gay marriage groups carry the historic guilt of 100s of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years of racism and hate. Many of the anti gay marriage groups also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> held the same ideas about mixed race marriages.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why anyone with a thinking brain would side with those groups for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything is a sign that some people are just stupid.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get it: *"liberals", who are illiberal, are evil assholes who hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> America.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you do not get it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I do get it. *See above.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I did look at what you wrote.
> >>>>>>>>>> You probably didn't, but even if you had, it's clear you didn't get it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Liberals love America and see to improve it
> >>>>>>>>>> "Liberals", who are completely illiberal, hate America and want to ruin it.
> >>>>>>>>> The United States was founded by some of the most liberal people of
> >>>>>>>>> the age.
> >>>>>>>> I already addressed this in another post. *The founders were, indeed,
> >>>>>>>> liberals: *classically so. *You and your fellow totalitarian-minded
> >>>>>>>> "liberals", however, are completely illiberal. *Read the otherpost;
> >>>>>>>> perhaps you'll begin to see the light.
> >>>>>>> You haven't addressed you own lies yet
> >>>>>> Nothing to address - I didn't and do not lie.
> >>>>> Funniest joke
> >>>> No joke.
> >>> [juvenile bullshit]
> >> The founders of the country were indeed liberals, but you and the other
> >> illiberal "liberals" are the antithesis of that.
>
> > ...
>
> Figures

That your incomprehensible? Yeah, it is.

PDW

On Dec 24, 1:48*pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Mark Sebree wrote:
> > On Dec 24, 2:18 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>> On Dec 23, 3:22 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 0830 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're in favor of government control over women's bodies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. *I'm against women committing murder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is everybody
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, not "liberals". *They want women to be able to murder babies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are an evil asshole.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
> >>>>>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>>>> Stop lying,
> >>>>>>>> I never started.
> >>>>>>> [gas]
> >>>>>> You and your fellow hate-America "liberals" are the menace to liberty
> >>>>>> and prosperity. *You are evil assholes, because you want to be.
> >>>>> Rudy you still don't get it, do you.
> >>>>> Liberals *generally expand Liberties.
> >>>>> Conservatives restrict Liberties.
> >>>>> Religion is general considered a conservative movement.
> >>>>> The so-called Prolife group is conservative and seek to limit the
> >>>>> choice/options.
> >>>>> The anti-gay marriage group is also conservative, anti-choice group
> >>>>> which seeks to keep exclusive and un-earned rights to a group.
> >>>>> The same anti Gay marriage groups carry the historic guilt of 100s of
> >>>>> years of racism and hate. Many of the anti gay marriage groups also
> >>>>> held the same ideas about mixed race marriages.
> >>>>> Why anyone with a thinking brain would side with those groups for
> >>>>> anything is a sign that some people are just stupid.
> >>>> I get it: *"liberals", who are illiberal, are evil assholes who hate
> >>>> America.
> >>> No, you do not get it.
> >> I do get it. *See above.
>
> > I did look at what you wrote. It shows that you don't get it. If you
> > "got it", you would not be calling liberals conservatives and you
> > would not be claiming that liberals hold conservative values and act
> > like conservatives. You would not be claiming that liberals do what
> > conservatives do, are closed minded and bigoted as you are, and are as
> > illiberal as you are.
>
> You probably didn't, but even if you had, it's clear you didn't get it.


Actually, I read what you wrote far more closely than you read what I
wrote. I do get it very well, as I have proven many times.

>
>
>
> > > > Liberals love America and see to improve it
> > > > and make sure that everyone actually has the same rights and
> > > > protections under the law. "Illiberals", which is an archaic word and
> > > > means marrow-minded and bigoted, are the opposite of liberals, who are
> > > > open-minded, inclusive, and tolerant. "Illiberal" is a better
> > > > describes the conservatives groups that are against same sex marriage,
> > > > like you, and against women controlling their own bodies and deciding
> > > > for themselves whether or not to continue a pregnancy that they are
> > > > experiencing, like you. Which means that you are iliberal, and thus
> > > > you are claiming to be an "evil asshole", which I doubt few would
> > > > argue with you on, and that you "hate America", you also seems to
> > > > describe you.
>
> "Liberals", who are completely illiberal, hate America and want to ruin it.

Those people do not exist except in your imagination since liberals,
by definition, cannot be illiberal. However, conservatives like you
can be. The "illiberals" that you are describing are actually
extremely conservative people since they are the ones that fir the
definition of "illiberal" in the first place.

>
>
>
> > And if you could read, you would have seen that I just showed you that
> > you do not get it. By definition, liberals cannot be illiberal since
> > they are adjectives with opposite meanings. Conservatives like you
> > are the ones that are actually illiberal, and you have shown in this
> > forum that you fit the definition of illiberal perfectly.
>
> No, you certainly did not.

Then why do you continue to lie and claim that liberals are
conservatives when in fact they are opposites?

I get what you are doing very well. It has been called in the past
"doublespeak" or "newspeak", words made up and defined by George
Orwell in "1984". Basically, it is the redefinition of words so that
they no longer mean what they used to mean. You are failing miserably
at your attempts since nobody buys into your lies and redefinitions.

The words "liberal" and "illiberal" are opposites, which means that
someone that is a liberal cannot be illiberal. A person that is
illiberal is a conservative. I.e. a person like you, with your views
and politics.

Mark Sebree

On Dec 27, 12:30*am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Syd wrote:
> > On Dec 26, 11:56 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> Syd M. wrote:
> >>> On Dec 26, 12:31 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 1317 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>> Syd M. wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Dec 25, 3:49 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:01:16 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 1016 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2:18 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 3:22 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 0830 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're in favor of government control over women's bodies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. *I'm against women committing murder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is everybody
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, not "liberals". *They want women to be able to murder babies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are an evil asshole.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop lying,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never started.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [gas]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You and your fellow hate-America "liberals" are the menace to liberty
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity. *You are evil assholes, because you want to be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy you still don't get it, do you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liberals *generally expand Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conservatives restrict Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion is general considered a conservative movement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The so-called Prolife group is conservative and seek tolimit the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice/options.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The anti-gay marriage group is also conservative, anti-choice group
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which seeks to keep exclusive and un-earned rights to agroup.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same anti Gay marriage groups carry the historic guilt of 100s of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years of racism and hate. Many of the anti gay marriagegroups also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> held the same ideas about mixed race marriages.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why anyone with a thinking brain would side with those groups for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything is a sign that some people are just stupid.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get it: *"liberals", who are illiberal, are evil assholes who hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> America.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you do not get it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do get it. *See above.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did look at what you wrote.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You probably didn't, but even if you had, it's clear you didn't get it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liberals love America and see to improve it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Liberals", who are completely illiberal, hate America and want to ruin it.
> >>>>>>>>>>> The United States was founded by some of the most liberal people of
> >>>>>>>>>>> the age.
> >>>>>>>>>> I already addressed this in another post. *The founders were, indeed,
> >>>>>>>>>> liberals: *classically so. *You and your fellow totalitarian-minded
> >>>>>>>>>> "liberals", however, are completely illiberal. *Read the other post;
> >>>>>>>>>> perhaps you'll begin to see the light.
> >>>>>>>>> You haven't addressed you own lies yet
> >>>>>>>> Nothing to address - I didn't and do not lie.
> >>>>>>> Funniest joke
> >>>>>> No joke.
> >>>>> [juvenile bullshit]
> >>>> The founders of the country were indeed liberals, but you and the other
> >>>> illiberal "liberals" are the antithesis of that.
> >>> ...
> >> Figures
>
> > That
>
> Figures.

That you snip what you don't understand?
Yeah, that does.
Coward.

PDW

On Dec 27, 2:38*pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Syd wrote:
> > On Dec 27, 12:30 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> Syd wrote:
> >>> On Dec 26, 11:56 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>> Syd M. wrote:
> >>>>> On Dec 26, 12:31 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 1317 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Syd M. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 25, 3:49 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:01:16 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 1016 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2:18 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Sebree wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 3:22 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience..noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 0830 -0800, in alt.abortion, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza *<pie...@frankreich.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer, who hates America, lied:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're in favor of government control over women's bodies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. *I'm against women committing murder..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is everybody
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, not "liberals". *They want women to beable to murder babies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are an evil asshole.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop lying,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never started.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [gas]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You and your fellow hate-America "liberals" are the menace to liberty
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prosperity. *You are evil assholes, because you want to be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy you still don't get it, do you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liberals *generally expand Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conservatives restrict Liberties.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion is general considered a conservative movement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The so-called Prolife group is conservative and seek to limit the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice/options.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The anti-gay marriage group is also conservative, anti-choice group
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which seeks to keep exclusive and un-earned rights toa group.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same anti Gay marriage groups carry the historic guilt of 100s of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years of racism and hate. Many of the anti gay marriage groups also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> held the same ideas about mixed race marriages.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why anyone with a thinking brain would side with those groups for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything is a sign that some people are just stupid.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get it: *"liberals", who are illiberal, are evil assholes who hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> America.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you do not get it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do get it. *See above.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did look at what you wrote.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You probably didn't, but even if you had, it's clear you didn't get it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liberals love America and see to improve it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Liberals", who are completely illiberal, hate America andwant to ruin it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The United States was founded by some of the most liberal people of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the age.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I already addressed this in another post. *The founders were, indeed,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> liberals: *classically so. *You and your fellow totalitarian-minded
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "liberals", however, are completely illiberal. *Read the other post;
> >>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps you'll begin to see the light.
> >>>>>>>>>>> You haven't addressed you own lies yet
> >>>>>>>>>> Nothing to address - I didn't and do not lie.
> >>>>>>>>> Funniest joke
> >>>>>>>> No joke.
> >>>>>>> [juvenile bullshit]
> >>>>>> The founders of the country were indeed liberals, but you and the other
> >>>>>> illiberal "liberals" are the antithesis of that.
> >>>>> ...
> >>>> Figures
> >>> That
> >> Figures.
>
> > That you snip
>
> What I snip is the meaningless chaff.

Ah, so that's what you call the stuff you refuse to address.

PDW